Tuesday, July 18, 2006

New Meth Recipe - a/k/a Easter Bunny Meth

I've had a couple of clients independently tell me about a new kind of methamphetamine. I'd never heard of it before, and it didn't make sense.

Its effects are supposed to be physiologically identical to meth, but the substance will not test as meth, either in a Narcopouch test or in a GC/MS.

It's made by mixing 1) household ammonia (more accurately, ammonium hydroxide (aq)) 2) crumbled charcoal (carbon) and 3) gun bluing (Selenious Acid, Cupric Nitrate, Nitric Acid, Phosphoric Acid and water [MSDS here]) in equal parts. Then the mixture is buried in a sealed fish tank or cooler. Some recipes call to suspend strings from the top of the container into the mixture. (hence the occasional name "string dope") Then wait a month. By then crystals will have formed; the crystals are [meth] ice.

However, this is not really meth; it's alive. It is a fungus that keeps growing inside your body long after you ingest it (by shooting or smoking) That's why addicts scratch and get open sores; it's the ice forming new crystals in a person's skin. These are called "meth bites." (locally, "ice bites" - assonance is important to addicts, too) On top of all that, it has a "half-life" of only a few days after removal from the ground; within two weeks, it will be pharmacologically inert.

The problem is, this recipe is all a bunch of crap; even the DEA knows it. (at 11)
On a more basic level, you just can't get there chemically. Period. There is no organic compound in the recipe, so you're not going to get anything remotely similar to the organic compound methamphetamine. You need an organic compound like an amine - as in meth-amphet-amine. Pseudoephedrine is an amine, and is used in both the red phosphorus/Hydrogen Iodide and Lithium/anhydrous ammonia cooking methods.

The base (ammonium hydroxide) and any of the acids (from the bluing) will react, and form a salt, which may form crystals, but it's not going to be chemically or pharmacologically anything like meth.

Another thing that had me skeptical was that none of my searches were getting hits on any of the drug information clearing houses; Erowid, Rhodium (now defunct), or Lycaeum.

But Erowid eventually came through; the recipe is "complete bunk" - the idea was dreamed up in the 1970's by a guy named Scott French and published in a book, the "Complete Guide to the Street Drug Game."
as explained by the erowid article's author,

As with the Net in general, there is a paucity of accurate information available on the subject of illicit drugs. Even the fact of publication is not necessarily a guarantee of any sort of technical legitimacy, particularly, though not limited to, "counter-culture" efforts.

There are many reasons why people write books, but making money is one of the biggest. When the subject is of an illegal nature, the likelihood of inadequate, incomplete, or blatantly wrong information is even higher than usual.

Companies like Paladin, Delta Press, and Loompanics are typical purveyors of such trashy misinformation under cover of the U.S. First Amendment. Ever seen the list of "underground" books by Ragnar Benson & Duncan Long? How many things can these guys be "expert" in? Not bloody likely. What's that maxim? If you can't do, teach.


I'm amazed that people will believe this crap; a living crystalline fungus that will continue to grow new crystals underneath the skin, even after being smoked. (but see gout; crystalline, yes, but not organic, not fungal, and not alive) I'm even more amazed that, armed with this erroneous but alarming information, people still use the stuff!

Jack

101 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't really believe that you could just "look it up on the internet" and find out how to make this awful stuff but I looked and there it was. I so appreciate your humor in the middle of a pretty depressing browse around the net. Thanks

5/02/2007 1:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually "For complete bunk", it gets you just as high if not higher than traditional meth made with Sudaphed boiled in Coleman Fuel and processed through a range of acid and alkaline chemicals like HCL and Vinegar, this so called "BUNK" method is simple and easy to make, gives off virtually no smell after the bleach/amonia reaction occurs and is not combustable. As far as taking a month to make, try 4-7 days using Mrs. Stewarts Fabric Bluing in place of gun bluing and then simply "WASHING" your shards with acetone that can be substituted with finger nail polish remover. If mixed properly in a quart pickle jar, and washed thoroughly in acetone you will get about a 1 oz yield with a street value of about $800 - $1000 for about $7 in supplies that you can buy at your local grocery store. "TWEAKERS", meth users actually prefer this "BUNK DOPE" to traditional methamphetamine, at least in my personal experience, living in a town with an 18% meth usage per capita. So I'll keep my "BUNK DOPE" Thanks.

6/07/2007 10:09 PM  
Blogger Gideon's Guardians said...

BUNK. Ms Stewart's is prussian blue, a/k/a ferric hexacyanoferrate, in a buffered solution. I.e., having nothing whatsoever in common with gun bluing, not even it's ph. It's not going to get you to meth or anything pharmacologically similar, either.

Jack

6/10/2007 3:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right about sooome stuff here. But a crystalline FUNGUS!!??? HAHAHAHA! You're furthering a junkie myth. There is no such thing. People believe in "meth bugs", pick at their skin, dig open sores, etc because meth causes a psychotic reaction. You think you have crap "growing" in you because some fool like the OP here put the idea into your head, your brain is frying, and you can't differentiate reality anymore when you on the crap. The myth started when a number of "cooks" were staring at crystals forming and were amazed at how lifelike they looked. They actually looked like a plant or fungus (yeast, specifically in many cases). This does not mean, however, that it was correct. I can't beleive there are people who spread this stuff like their some kind of "expert" on the matter.

Oh, and by the way, OP, you don't "need" an amine to CREATE an amine. I'm not sure you even understand that concept so I'll spare you the chemsitry. Do the world a favor, though. Take a college level chemistry class so you can tell the difference when someone tells you something for no reason other than that they're crazy, or are trying to make an ass of you.

6/11/2007 1:39 PM  
Blogger Gideon's Guardians said...

Anon, you need a reading comprehension class worse than I need an Organic Chemistry class.
First, the idea of a crystalline fungus IS ridiculous; which is why I'm ridiculing it - it's as real as the Easter Bunny. What I'm trying to spread is that this stuff is bogus.
Second, to make meth "you need an organic compound LIKE an amine" (emphasis added) If you don't use an amine, you just need more steps. Heck, technically, you don't even need to start with an organic compound, you can synthesize one. But again, that means more steps, and not ones you average meth cook has the materials or knowhow to execute.
To simplify:
1)You can't get meth from charcoal, gun (or fabric) bluing and household ammonia.
2)There's no such thing as a crystalline fungus, or a living crystal.
3)If you ingest the results of number 1, whether or not you believe that number 2 is the result, you are a desperate, stupid SOB.

6/15/2007 10:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I have said in a previous posting meth is not produced from this cooking or growing process but it gets you high just the same. Tell the $2800 in my pocket that it doesn't that's what I just made for this bunk crap. For about $14.00 in household chemicals. About the only other option for a cook is moving to Canada or Mexico or using muriatic acid pe extraction on Vicks inhalers. This is an expansive process that yields only a small amount of pure methamphetamine, 50mg per inhaler at about $2.00 per inhaler when the yield is cut with MSN or B12 a profit is to be made although through much more hassle than the previous process that is at hand. None of us are saying that it produces real meth by any means in the first process, You're right, it does produce an illusion (Easter Bunny Dope) but it has been and remains to be a believable illusion, that tweakers continue to enjoy, if it weren't for Clinton making real dope and not poison would still be a fairly easy thing to do.
An as far as Ms. Stewarts turning your shit blue it does that's why man created acetone with which to wash away the blue.

7/14/2007 10:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this ms.stewarts way sounds interesting,if its true.how do you do it?

7/18/2007 5:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what is the correct mixture for the quart jar? cant seem to get it just right

7/20/2007 9:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This post has been removed by a blog administrator.

7/21/2007 2:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, when mixing the bleach and amonia don't breath the fumes unless you want to die. So do your mixing in an open well ventilated area and be careful not to splash it on yourself either. I have chemical burns on my hands because I learned the hard way.

7/21/2007 2:20 AM  
Blogger Gideon's Guardians said...

Anonymous, I deleted your instructions for the following reasons:
1. This blog won't be party to correct or incorrect instructions on how to make meth. I'm OK with explaining general processes from a crim law practice standpoint, but the only need to go into 'how-to' detail is so chuckleheads can try to make it.
2. This applies to real meth recipies as well as bunk recipes. The effects of meth are well known; I don't need more clients and I don't want more lives wasted.
The effects of mixing crap together in the hope it ends up crystalline (becasue if its crystalline, OF COURSE it'll have the same effects as meth) are not well known, and "F-ing stupid" doesn't even begin to encompass the irresponsibility of ingesting/injecting into your body some crystal you grew in that funky cooler from last month's lake party.
3. I don't want any more people screwed up on drugs, and I don't want people screwed up on random chemicals. If I wanted to kill off the weak, I'd write about the newest method for making meth: Put salt crystals in your mouth, a rechargable battery (lithium) up your nose, and fire a shotgun shell at your face (bismuth) which also provides the heat and pressure required for the reaction.

So anonymous, no more recipes, please. You might try erowid, but you know they'll call BS on you faster than I can.

Jack

7/26/2007 4:51 PM  
Anonymous microsauce said...

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8/04/2007 4:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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8/05/2007 1:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a former meth addict the differences between this "easter bunny" dope and the real deal with the other 2 methods not including p2p. is stagereing. the real shit would keep you up and you would not be laying down tired after 10 minutes of tweaking. ice as it is called now, is probably as the writer of the other blogs said is bunk

8/29/2007 2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I'd like to know if the stuff called ICE that is reportedly made by growing crystals using charcoal - is NOT meth or a real possibility -- then why is it that those who use it -- and only it -- test positive for meth when UA'd?

9/27/2007 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is alot of people doing time for this easter bunny dope

9/28/2007 2:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone who thinks bleach works with amonia to make even fake dope deserves to be poisoned by the gasses released for your info bleach destroys the meth stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10/09/2007 5:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i dont think anyone is calling it meth...i would like to hear the pickle jar method with fabric bluing

10/13/2007 3:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the hell is wrong with you all? You are literally going to kill yourselves doing these horrible drugs. How can you put something that disgusting and toxic in your body? This makes me sick.

10/29/2007 1:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

id love to hear how this is made in a pickle jar! It intrigues me as i used to be hooked on this "fake stuff" and I know some people who make it, but wont tell anyone. I am wondering this because it seems you actually need gun bluing that contains selenium! anyone who wishes to email me at msmith6981@gmail.com. i am not asking for you to post a recipe or to make it, i am wondering what I was really doing

10/31/2007 12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im not gonna tell u all the recipe but i can get 12 oz,s just using gun bluing water ammonia and tar. so simple a 3 yr old could do it, and yes its real meth!!

11/06/2007 2:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay don't tell them all, just tell me

11/07/2007 6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yea me too !!

11/14/2007 6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay somebody who really knows something e-mail me at Starsfiresx@aol.com. I found some stuff on the net and if anybody wants that info you can e-mail me too.

11/14/2007 9:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is just becoming wishful thinking at this point seems like...i cant find anyone who can give a tried an d true method just alot of "i know a guy" or "once i saw this"..now people are talking about tar..lets see the procedure if your so sure it works

11/15/2007 7:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE WIZERD
say htink bout it carbon tar,charcoal,coal.amonia,household liquid,red devel notliquid,fretelizer amonia liquid higher contrate,break it down pure elements

11/15/2007 10:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay guys go to www.zone86.com (view entries)and read the news story about the cops finding a set up and not knowing what it was , so they sent it off to a lab and the chemist tells what it really is and what people are getting high on.

11/16/2007 1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so its selenium crystals thats the final product...still want to see one of these recipies come to life

11/16/2007 2:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ive been readin on this column for about 3 months without a comment my mind is made up ive tried it and everything came out good and this is the "WHIP" it'll take you to the moon your first trip around

11/25/2007 1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tell us how you "whipped " it up then..until then your post has no merit

11/26/2007 12:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone please post the entire process with specific amounts and ingredients on www.Zone86.com

11/28/2007 5:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STILL NOTHING EVEN CLOSE TO VALID!!! POST IT IF YA KNOW IT WORKS ON ZONE86.COM!!! TAR? WHAT NOW TAR? I GIVE UP TRYING TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT!! IM GLAD I GUESS, NOW I CAN QUITE WORRYING BOUT IT AND GET BACK TO OVERPAYIN FOR LOUSY CRAP HERE!

12/03/2007 2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me that there is alot of interest in this stuff, good or bad. So I found the recipe on www.zone86.com. If anyone has tried this recipe leave a comment on zone 86. Did the recipe mentioned there forget water or is it not needed for the crystal formation?? Just looking for some answers.

1/01/2008 9:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Household ammonia is ammonia dissolved in water (ammonium hydroxide) and ranges from 5 to 10 percent ammonia content by weight. There's your water.

You guys are crazy...

1/03/2008 10:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW, why would anyone like to put suck crap in their body? unless they have a frikken depressing life and are really messed up.... but that not enough reason to do it. seriously, u have 1 life, dont waste it by intoxicating urself with sick chemicals n shit

1/17/2008 2:07 PM  
Anonymous Vote For Pedro said...

I say do what you want unless by doing so you're taking away from the ones that are dependent on you. What's the difference between fucking up you liver with alcohol? getting Cancer with cigarettes? or getting high on ANY drug? If you can kill yourself with liquor and cigarettes, you have the same right to do it with Meth or any other dope.

1/17/2008 10:44 PM  
Anonymous Vote For Pedro said...

I'm drug free though, I never saw the point.

1/17/2008 10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on meth for longer than I care to remember. I'd be willing to bet there isn't a sole intrested in this shit that has ever lost anything very dear to them. Take my advise walk away now!!! NOTE: there isn't anything other than salt in any recipe that is made for the body. Each ingrediant has a poison control # on whatever package or container its in.

1/18/2008 9:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous doesn't mean shit on the internet. Keywords alert the Gov. For example "meth", all of these sites are monitored and checked up on.

1/18/2008 9:57 PM  
Anonymous Vote For Pedro said...

Loosing something dear to you from Meth is no diferent than loosing something dear to Alcohol. You either control the addiction, whatever it may be, or you LET IT control you. All I'm saying is don't be stupid and narrow minded and attack one drug, when in reality, ADDICTION is the real enemy. More people die each year from alcohol than ALL illegal drugs combined. Look it up.

1/19/2008 4:03 PM  
Anonymous piyox said...

WOW, When will I ever hear the end of this crap urban legend. It circulates in county jails or something. Ive heard this method from about 5 different people and each one of em just heard from hear say... duh... never tried it cause then they would stop acting like they know whats up. Seems like its always accompanied with that yellow jacket spray method. Total crap newbies.If u dont know what your doing and acting like u do, then dont.

1/20/2008 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is America...Where crap is king.

1/25/2008 10:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he is full of it, but you need the least water as possible. for all you knowing minds. I won't tell you but i will hint. How are ammonia and water alike? but how are they different. the diffence will make it possible to separate them. Good luck. remember no light or sun or air for 30

2/11/2008 1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is everyone stupid this stuff destroys lives and breaks up homes so why dont you all just get a clue and quit trying to look for new ways to make your life miserable, there are far to many more important things to accomplish like say life so dont be a dope by doing dope please I know it has destroyed my life so yes I do know what I am talking about and by far the high or euphoreia is not worth the long term effects. Such as those to the body, to the mind , and to each and every life that it effects including those wich may suffer due to the fact of someone else being a user ie children parents siblings any and all who care and love you all wich are effected so take some friendly advice and if you dont do it dont start and if you do the sooner you stop the better off you will be and so will everyone that is around you that cares for you and thats all I have to say

2/13/2008 5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the actual synthesis for making Glass. Using a 48-Qt Ice Chest, go out and buy 6 40oz BROWN beer bottles. They have got to be brown. Make sure to wear latex gloves and empty out the bottles. You don't want no oils or acids to get on these bottles from your fingers or anything. Wash the bottles in denatured alcohol repeatedly. After washing and drying the bottles place them in the ice chest in 2 rows of 3 bottles with each bottle being one shot glass apart from each other and the front and back of the ice chest. Fill the ice chest with approx. 2.5 to 3 inches of activated charcoal. Take any type of handheld vegatable sprayer and fill it with gun bluing. Spray it well over your charcoal but dont overspray it and dont not spray your bottles.Next insert 4 shot glasses between your 6 bottles, 2 per row of 6 but only between the bottles and not the ice chest itself. Fill the shot glasses 3 quarters of the way up with muratic acid. Then add approx. one marble sized piece of aluminum foil to each shot glass. Close the lid on your ice chest. Tape the ice chest closed for better results. Leave somewhere in total darkness for 21-30 days. The end result is very nice shards grown all over your bottles. Discard any of the shards that are touching the charcoal and gun bluing for they are not good. Other little tweaks can be done to this recipe. But this how I learned it here as it is wrote.

3/10/2008 9:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ever heard of the Red, White, and Blue? No, not USA!!! Red (Phospherous), White (Lithium), and Blue (Iodine). Quit wasting your time with this crap. Sure it gets you high but so does holding your breath for too long. Find yourself a good cook/source and quit worrying 'bout how to make it!
Try your local Methicans I mean Mexicans, good product cheap price in bulk.

3/15/2008 3:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

METH IS BAD!!!!!!!!!!!MMMMMKKKKK

3/24/2008 7:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been toying with making shit for about nine years now and i've never actually put together a 666 recipe. (Gun blue, ammonia, and charcoal) I have done two or three other ways but since they came down on ephedrine and hypo it's been difficult to get all the ingredients. Anyway, I'm going to try the 666 method weather it makes real live meth or not. I am curious so to find out for myself i gotta try it. A long time ago a friend of mine put c, a and g-b into an ice chest and it DID grow something but it was VERY acidic. No good. Well wish me luck.

4/11/2008 3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous, you claim to be a former meth addict in one of your blogs, but it is hard to believe that a FORMER addict could be producing the drug. I myself am a recovering addict and work in conjunction with the crystal meth task force in stratford ontario. I can not watch videos of people smoking meth, let alone make it! Yes, meth induced psychosis is the cause of the scratching though. the "ice bites" are caused from heavy doses, not because it is growing in your skin.

Also, I am working on writing an article for a magazine, and came across a ton of meth recipes, which is sickening!

5/05/2008 9:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

meth is bad i am reformed myself... well, working on it. i hate the shit, but of is in front of me ill hit that shit. i seriously hate it. i know i fu@&s up your life and all nut why the hell is it so addicting, is it in ur mind mostly? or is it physical??? anyone got any real advice to help me out? HELP!!!!

5/14/2008 10:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think that it's funny how all of you guys are fighting over how to make meth...you guys are fucking retarded

5/19/2008 4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know I have been around a long time. I am an old hippy and have had my fill of weed and wine but this shit is just in sane. I have and HAD a few friends who have gotten into meth and a son who tried it. From what I have seen I dont understand why people dont just do it the old way? Get a gun, put one bullet in, go to a remote place and spin the cylender, pull back the hammer and wait to see if you make it or not. My heart goes out to anyone who is addicted to this stuff but for God's sake dont folks get it? You dont get shit out of your cleaning cabnet to get high on. I was really shocked to see so many who made a reply to this blog and had used. Think, life is so damn short to start with. Why play with a loaded gun? Noone could have a life that bad. Im not asking anyone to climb a mountain, Im just asking you to stop and think before you play with your life.

5/19/2008 8:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well said, hippy dude. my hat is off to you. you got a good point, and i think that people should listen to you. man, you've been around the block a few times and you know your stuff.

5/19/2008 8:50 PM  
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5/28/2008 11:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay well check this out. i have done some research on this manner, and it does make sense. Does anybody know what activated charcoal or fish coals are used for........ the answer is as a chemical filter. and you do need something suspended like strings hanging above the substances. because as the chemical reaction occurs between the gun bluing and and the ammonia which you have to freeze to get the plastic compound out, because pure ammonia doesn't freeze, the activated charcoal filters this and and in collects in the air buy the strings. of a known combination is 12oz of charcoal 12 oz of ammonia and 6 oz of gun bluing. cut the lid off of a pop can to measure. place in a ice chest all three in separate cups or bowls and duct tape the out side of the ice chest and bury it in the ground at approximately three feet down thats the top because the ground that far down will hold a temp between 70 and 75. inside the top of the container putt some cheese cloth and poke holes in it and string dental floss from it. in the 30 days you will have ice. wash with acetone 3-5 times. and then put it in a Pyrex dish with a a little water and put it over a open flame rocking gently until it cracks back and scrape the crystals off with a razor blade. this is done to help kill the bacteria you just made and it does only have a couple of weeks shelf life

6/24/2008 10:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

never works either way for me.Not even with the eltrolice way.steel bowl pole in the middle possitive on one end an negitive on the bowl. growing it with fish string never worked but lots of my prison freinds are in for it doing 20 years.what is going wrong. even tried fertilizer instead of charcoal a alleadged sons of silence recipie.more prison lies I guess.Im not going to try to make it for Ill go back.I am interested in nowing the rite way from some one who is actullay done it willaimgagnon@gmail.com this is a freinds mail site I cant check it out since I have no computer

6/27/2008 2:26 AM  
Anonymous Easy Meth Recipes said...

you know simple ways to make Methamphetamine really do exist online but you gotta be careful of where you look and who you listen to. alot of lies out there and just plain ignorance or hate for tweekers which doesnt help anyone. I put together the best info I can to help kill the lies. A lot of you guys are just spouting stupid stuff to be honest. Experience means a lot more than cut/paste

7/15/2008 7:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does anyone know the exact name of the chemical/crystal/fungus or whatever the hell this method produces. i'm just very curious to know what it really makes and what type of bacteria is in with it

7/15/2008 7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you all are crazy, i have a friend who found some chemicals in their kids room.she said that she thought he was on something,come to find out it will probably this stuff you all have been talking about,get a life and stay away from it!!!!!!!!!

7/18/2008 3:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let me tell you guys something i was a mastercook and buyer wholesaler for a long time made alot of money until i was set up twice by friends i took under my wing and taught the ever changin art of meth cooking there is ways around everything i will give you a few tips 1. a true cook will not teach the entire method unless you have known them from birth basically cause they know that the closest one to there vast knowledge will be the one to fold them up like what happened to me 2. there are different varietys of this fish tank method the easyiest you were probably tought in elementry school you made rock candy if you did but that way has a time frame for potency and there are other methods of it like adding isomers if you are not familiar with chemistry that is what is added to an amphetamine to make MDMA metholine dioxy meth amphetamine make the tank method into a more sexual arousel drug but that recipe is not the best in my opinion and the opinionof the old schools i learned from the phosphorus is the best way but everyone keeps say they cracjed down on the pills like i said there is a way around everything i will give a hint and that is all i am out of the business and plan to stay that way the way that epherderine is made is a fermintation process using brewers yeast and another item yes just like beer and hops or barley so i leave you with this if you are not familiar with chemistry terms and molecule structure invest in a mexican for good shit at cheap price and leave the cookin to the chemist

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8/09/2008 6:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if some one could help me out and send a recipe to cook the shit pls... evisuone@hotmail.com

9/13/2008 12:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. Its pathetic reading comments about worthless piece of shit tweakers arguing about their poison. Fuck all you tweakers.

9/18/2008 10:51 PM  
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9/30/2008 2:48 AM  
Anonymous Pheromone said...

You people think you're chemists? If you knew something about anything, organic chemistry is the study of the element carbon. Which all drugs are made from.
The carbon comes from charcoal. The string dope is indeed made by placing charcoal in a fish tank, adding equal amounts of ammonia hydroxide which are where the crystals come from forming the crystaline substance. Gunblue is the is the reducing chemical combining with carbon and changing and adding molecules.
You suspend guitar strings above the liquid and in 30-days it precipitates up the strings and that is Ice. Yes chemically different than standard meth but it is an amphetamine, & vaporized better than meth when smoked.

10/09/2008 12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just curious what I put in my body 12 yrs ago. What a nightmare! So glad to be clean!

10/21/2008 7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just spent near 10 years in prison for manufacturing meth, and so Ill give you all the real dal on how to make meth....
If you really want to make meth your a fucking idiot and should either get into treatment or kill yourself...meth is for weak people, be above it dude, go get a fucking job.

1/01/2009 1:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the fuck are you doing on a meth site then you fucking prick

1/07/2009 11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1.Gun Blue #9 === 2."Household ammonia" or "ammonium hydroxide" === 3.Natural charcoal it is 100% real charcoal.
I don't know where they got calling it activated charcoal blah, anyways the cheese cloth across the top of cooler with pieces of dental floss hanging halfway down worked out twice as better then the glass jar ordeal

I know a guy that knows a guy that is kin to this dude that has a sister with a boyfriend that does this at least 4-6 times a year.

1/11/2009 6:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FINDING ALL OF THE RIGHT INGREDIENTS NOW DAYS IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. EVERYTHING HAS AN ORIGINAL ORIGIN BASED IN THE ANNULS OF ALCHEMY. THE BEST RESULTS CAME FROM USING 1 GAL P2P 2 GAL METHYLAMINE 60/40 6 GS MURCURIC CHLORIDE 2 GAL. METHONAL AND ONE POUND OF FINELY CHOPPED REYNOLDS WRAP. THIS IS QUICKLY PLACED IN A PRESSURE COOKER AND LEFT ALONE UNTIL PRESSURE GAUGE IS BACK TO ZERO AND POT IS COLD. ADD 2 MORE GAL. METHANOL. POUR SOLUTION INTO SEP. FUNNEL, TAP OFF SILVER SLUDGE AND DISCARD. GAS WITH HYDROGEN CHLORIDE GAS AND R-11 FREON IN GASSING CYLINDER. PLACE CRYSTALS IN VACUUM FILTER FUNNEL AND PLACE ON TOP OF A JUG ADD VACUUM AND WASH WITH ETHER THIS IS FINISHED. NOW THE HARD PART IS WHERE DO YOU GET THE CHEMICALS WITHOUT DRAWING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF. THIS IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE BUT A LITTLE RESEARCH IS NECESSARY TO AQCUIRE THE ALCHEMICAL ORIGINS OF EACH OF THE NEEDED INGREDIENTS. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER BUT DON'T GET COCKY. MAKING METH IS ILLEGAL, DANGEROUS, AND SHOULD BE TREATED EXTREME CAUTION. PROPER EQUIPMENT SHOULD ALWAYS BE USED. ALSO DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT DO THE RESEARCH.

1/18/2009 7:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is this "crystalline fungus" called?
I know of an idiot who recited this exact recipe and method, with the introduction of a car battery to speed up the process.
Thanks to your site (true or not) I was able to scare them out of the attempt. Whewww!

1/23/2009 10:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Straight away people, if you have reading comprehension skills, a 7th grade education that lightly contains Biology, Zoology, Horticulture, and VERY basic science, you DO understand that designer drugs are NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE right?

Well, except for you fucktard tweaker burnouts, you people still think wine made with white bread and kool-aid is "teh shit". The only thing "teh shit" there is what is left of your brain.

For one, Users need to shut the hell up, you are burnt out, no need for you to fuckup a bunch of recipes (and people) because you are too damned stupid to understand the difference between Meth and Ice, Saprophytes, naturally occuring Hydroxy/Hydroxil's and Induced Anerobic Hypoxia versus Gassing with Hydrochlorides.

And I won't even touch on basic Anerobic Digestions, and the parallels between spore fungus (sapro's) and dual-phase aenorobic Methane production.

For the REAL cooks out here, run those grills gents, after all, you know THESE morons won't ever get there without YOU.

"You never Design and Create, then use your product. The point of this bidness is Money, not Stupidity. Leave that to the Users, not the Makers."

By the way, I guess most of you dipshits couldn't even possibly understand that every single one of the "most needed" chemical constituents are NATURALLY occuring?

If you boneheads took the 1 hour to look into anything natural, and stay the fuck away from retards who call themselves "chemists", you would understand that you CAN get there from here, but with added natural resources, and simple reduction methods.

Good thing OP: I took note that Peyote was Magical at one time, like Easter Bunny, and so was- Every single drug within the last 100 years. UNTIL it hit the streets. I also noted that for a Magical Chemical, there seems to be a helluva lot of people in Pokey-Land for this shit, that is "illusionary".

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2/02/2009 3:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love to make chaos out of order
i take your sons souls and i rape your daughters
no human beings are immune
i'll dance to anybody's tune
heaven and hell are in awe of me
i'm evil walking
i live to bring you nights of terror i'm evil stalking
i'm the one who wakes you screaming
positive that you weren't just dreaming
you run to their rooms your heart is racing
all your light and goodness i'm defacing
i only take what you love the most
leaving you only destruction and death
sucking away their lifeblood so slow-i smile
and i laugh as i hear you cry awhile
cuz whether or not they die now they're dying
but before they are dead and in my grasp
they'll do it again this has not passed
see "Jones" is a man they think a friend
he will ride by their side till the very end
just one more fix, just one more hit, just one more time and they swear they'll quit
but they don't seem to understand, i'm not a ghost, a god, a man
i'm just a thing with no smell or taste,
i'm a sightless, soundless path to waste
you should know it's me cuz it's sure not them
the reason that they load a pipe or prick their skin
smoke it, snort it, draw it back--and BAM!
i don't even let them give a damn
i'm not to blame if they down some upper
i don't care if they eat drugs for supper
i have no conscious,i have no soul
and the fools believe i make them whole
once i get them firmly sided with me
it's a lifelong union HISTORY!
and my mission in their lives you'll find
is to never give them peace or any piece of mind
or ability to deal with daily strife
my names ADDICTION
i'm theirs for LIFE
i can justify, i can minimize
keep 'em in denial, keep 'em glorifying
which helps me keep them from the fact they're dying
i'm the slowest form of suicide
i make them bleed just to feel alive
and all the while the disease i am
keeps them numb or in pain thus knows no end
N.A. may arrest me but i'll never die
COPS may arrest them but they'll still get high
it takes rock bottom, a deep pit, a hole
to make them see how much i stole
to make them want to grab ahold of life
to end the lies self hate and strife
oh sure i'll still be around
but by a Higher power i can be bound
it starts with their admission of truth
followed by group support and love
and being willing to let go and let God
gives me less power than a clump of sod
and as their minds begin to clear
their pain will not be cause for fear
but joy at even feeling anything
joy only One higher than me can bring
sure i'll lose a few to Him
but there are still so many others
fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles,grandparents, cousins, children, sisters, brothers
they too can fall prey to me
in the same old way
trying to numb some pain they feel
they lose sight of me but i remain very real
all you have to do to give me control
is use drugs, even one time
and i'll latch onto your very soul
as i eat away at your very mind
and you'll live for me
while i'm killing you
i HOPE YOUR ROCK BOTTOM
ISN'T AT
SIX FEET!!!
9-15-1998
BY GENA SHADE

And no unlike most of you I am proud of who I am today. 22 years ago I met a cook from Cali in the middle of missoui. I subsequently lost my family, children, and everything I owned several times over. two years ago I was arrested and since have gotten it right. Right with God my own personal Savior. The more I am faithful to Him by sharing my testimony the more of my True Life He restores. So this is me sharing what worked for me. My family has been restored to me, my mother and sis and bro and one of my two children. The other of my two boys is turning 21 this year and I havn't got to see him since he was 3 1/2 yrs old.
God is the true recipe for success in life and the Bible is your instruction manual. The ingredients are faith, love, truth, hope, belief, and TRUST in something greater than you. I love each and every one of you and I pray that you find a light in the darkness that you can go toward and that you are not dead when you do. Contact me if you want and I will tell you more about the strength that will set you all free..
gypsy_karma@yahoo.com


I am not afraid anymore...I want you to know that there is life after meth.

2/24/2009 2:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't even know how I came across this one. I would only be guessing that most individuals on this sight are men in their teens and early twenties. Why? Basically the language used, how used, and the maturity level type text read in the comments. Some of your lives are basically not very important to you. But, this is not for the one writing this statement to judge. I will comment that it is frightening that so many individuals spend so much time trying to make a drug that is so harmful. You guys keep asking questions on recipes and the recipe is right in front of you all over the page. Once again a level of maturity and very weak education is the opinion. I hope you all researched so well in school or you daily put such effort into your family relationships, or maybe a father or mother yourself. I won't preach, but Jesus. He deserves it. The educational level on this site is why you all should not mess with trying to become chemists. Maybe you all need to get through math with a decent grade and further progress to basic chemistry, prior to making such a toxic drug. It you have to have straight meth, I would think Desoxyn would be a better method. Of couse, I am ADHD and Desoxyn desoxyephedrine) is the pharmaceutical form of methamphetamine & corn starch.I don't preach to you all about not getting high or wondering why you all want to get high, heck we all need some energy. But, to put in your bodies the chemicals that street meth uses is crazy and yes at times and some of the times become longer than others,we each are crazy. Just get smarter on how and why you do what you are doing.

I feel, If the person starting this blog was so concerned with wanting people off meth, I would almost 100% be correct that he or she would not be posting any type of recipe on his/her site or allow individuals to comment this type of receipe haven. And let me add the use of a type of published Bible is even further distubing.

Oh and on the subject of fungus...
When you have any solution or food or whatever it may be and you conceal or trap it to an area, with heat and these items produce heat-then humidity or basic water molecules will form and heat creates bacteria, thus something will grow. The mere fact that the oxygen had bacteria will create a fungus when the humidity is created. Humidity of mere hot and cold coming togehter to create a percipitation and there in time.. fungus. So you close in vapor forming chemicals and oxygen once present- now absent of further but what was left hanging, come on use your common so called think you have it street smart sense. So you put it in the dark and make sure the light doesnt take away you water and let the chemicals create the vapor. HMMM. Bleach may kill what it touches, but will its vapor kill all above it. OF course not within the mixture if bleach or amonia is present, but the humidity it creates will grow a fungus, bacteria or whatever descide to grow out of it. This is why they say drop strings to grab what forms. Now what you get is a test and the brave I guess will test this. Has anyone ever bought a Crystal Growing Kits when they were young. These crystals grow all over the place. The point is these crystals are not going to grow in the bleach or amonia, but they will above from what is created below. NO this is not a recipe and No I would not give this and not my point. My point is common sense is not used here with any comment seen.

You can believe what you want and hope that not anyone gets hurts from all your experiments. Leave this for the chemists. Your trying to make a quick buck or save some money. Just dont use and you will save and a quick buck does not and is not a proven method that lasts. If this did works, then all you guys would not still be trying to find how to make the first quick buck.

My father grew meth on strings. I went to check on him one evening, because of these so called illusions or recipes this blogger says does not get you high. He had a prominant business and turned it into a meth growing facility in his warehouse. He took my family and I to eat for my birthdayone evening. I found he moved out, built himself an apt at his work above his warehouse. Later found the apt was pretty nice and was pretty secure with his surv. cameras and speacial locks. He even had a gun and his illusions brought him to think of using it later after our nice birthday dinner; which he was high at and after he made it 2 hours late. I received a call a few hours after diiner. My stepmother asking me to go check on my father. I walked into a warehouse of fish aquariums 250 galllon ones. 15 rows deep and 24 across wrapped in duck tape and large ropes dropped. I didnt know about the ropes or what was in these till later. When I entered his office, he didnt appear to be there. His desk full of drugs, I betan knocking item on the floor. His surv on and he walked out of the bathroom to stop me. Pulling me down, only to make me stop destroying the place. Trying to get free, I shoved what I had in my hand into my bag and acutally was only trying to brace myself. I would never call the police, but his life was more important with a gun present. Things did not turn out as planned. I have not seen my father in 5 years. He got away. I was arrested later at my home for posession. I got away from his place. I arrive home around 10:00pm, crying. Garage door opener battery must have died and I began to dial phone to have my husband open the door, and never pushed send. Crying, I leaned head back, fell asleep with my car running. I rolled into my garage and my spouse was asleep. He woke later to the sound of my suburban hitting the garage but thought just a noice and maybe I was working upstair in office. I got home again around 10:00pm and @ 5:34am, I woke to a fire engine light and a gun in my face. They were yelling, cops everywhere, and asking if I lived there. Well of course; they knew I did, they were yelling my name. They had already been in my car when I was alseep. They said someone said they thought I was dead. Really? Then why is the fire truck across the road, no ambulance and four cop cars with a gun in my face? They wouldnt wake my husband, but some dead person rolled into a persons home and they are not going to notify the residents. I never looked to see what stuffed in my bag. I thought was cocaine. When they grabbed bag, I told them, oh that stuff I grabbed is in that bag of my dads. But my dad got away and I went to jail. My father was growing this so called dope that does not get you high. They broke it down like this ...7000 ounces. He got away with half and tried to charge me with the half.But, $100,000 and 7 attorneys and 51 people for me in courts, did not help. Estimate of 12 arrests later, I received 4 years TDCJ and all due to them not believing, but what they created; since I tested positive for Desoxyn which the metabolytes are the same when testing meth. It is meth-I must have something to do with this dope. Taken the drug since 9 and I am 40. Never abused, 18 years marriage, and two beautiful daughters and A students. I had a $300,000/yr annual income and all destroyed and I do not use. This drug destroys lives and everything it touches. If you get caught, you may get probation. I will say, there is not anyone who fights as hard as I do. I don't give up and I don't lose. I did and so did my children and my entire family. We lost everything we developed and secured in 18 years. I still today do not know where my father is. A few two line letters here and there. He does not even know his daughter is a convict and I take meth legally. It will happen at one point. Hopefully, not as my life did. But, you will lose and it will be you or someone you touch. WIse up out there. It's not worth it. Your selfish. It's not you your hurting, its the ones you touch. You don't have a right to hurt others by your getting high. Suicide is selfish. Your fine. It's the ones you leave behind.

And NO I didn't proof read or check grammar or puncuation. Deal with it. Have a better day!!!!!

3/17/2009 1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will add to my comment in discussion of my father. When you ask the lord why he didnt stop you and where was he when you were doing all this. You may hear that he gives you a choice and he was with you. He was with you and standing at the same place he was when his son was being murdered for your sins. ALways by your side. He does not choose for you. You have to do this and the only one who can make your choice. This can be your heaven or this can be your hell. Karma is a bitch and the law of attraction does not having feelings, or care what the choice is. You are not in control and when you learn this, you will learn to love yourself and what was given to you in the beginning. LIFE Get it back, before you lose it. It's only a moment away to keep or lose. And that is the only control you have right now. YOUR CHOICE-Soon it will not be yours. I KNOW. EVEN though I was not using, I had a choice and I chose to handle the wrong way. I did not save my dad, and he did not destroy my family. I did with my choice. AND HE still walks his chosen path, I assume.

3/17/2009 1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this blog still active?

3/19/2009 8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have personaly made the shit. not to sell or try. can tell you it aint a fungus. but did LOOK like what i bought. Even still dont think it was smart. I'm no chemist and doubt that was the same. Bunk? aint gonna find out.

3/30/2009 9:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im looking for the guy that had his post removed,the guy that posted first on 6/07/2007 at 10:09 pm. in my opinion it was not cool to run a site where this is the topic and then remove this guys post. What is this Russia? You dont like what someone says so you sensor it. For educational purposes I would have liked to see if this guys recipe actually created anything. Anyway, if this guy is still here, hit me up at newcastle424@yahoo.com. You all be safe

4/21/2009 11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi,i am chemist from Czech Republik.methamfetamine he stems from CR.Here is best meth recipe:
• 1)Tablety z efedrinem opláchneme studenou vodou od žluté barvy.Opláchnuté tablety vložíme do pet lahve a vlažnou vodou razpustíme.Zalijeme 1/3 obs.toulenem a nasipeme hydroxid sodný.
• Láhev zavýčkujeme a pomalu začneme třepat dokud nevznikne teplota cca. 60°C.Po pěti minutách třepání necháme odstát do schladnutí.Je li to uděláno dobře tak na vrchu se oběví toulen.Ten odtáhneme a přes filtraci nalijeme do čisté pet lahve.Jako filtraci je nejlepší použít kávové filtry popř. vatu
• 2)Do toulenu dáme cca 50 kapek kyseliny solné tak aby byl rostok mírně kyselí musíme měřit PH a cca 50ml vody.5 minut třepem,minutu necháme odstát a pak odtáhneme vodu z kyselinou solnou,dáme na tál a odpaříme po odpaření bude na tále pseudoefedrin.
• 3)Jod,efedrin,kis.fosforečnou,fosfor, v poměru 0.9:1:1.8:0.4 dáme do baňky
• 4)Vaříme při teplotě127.5- 132°C 40 minut.Do reakce nedáme jod hned ale rozdělíme na 10 tzv.vhuzů které vhazujem každé dvě minuty

Nejlepší nájezd se udělá tak že se v malé teplotě (118 cca) hodí tolik jódu aby
Teplota sama stoupla na 132°c max.

5)Poreakční směs pečlivě přefiltrujeme a naložíme s ní jako z tabletama viz bod 1.

6)Zásady:Kyselina ORTHO-FOSFOREČNÁ musí být co nejvíc koncentrovaná,fosfor červený
amorfní vysušit,používat PH papírky a teploměr.Good luck

6/01/2009 4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GODDAMN I'm high as a mutha fucka now! Good work soldiers!! haha, thats a hit! dead on!

6/15/2009 11:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So easy a cave man can do it, right?

6/15/2009 11:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only problem is that i cant read the language in the recipe, how about telling us in english!

6/16/2009 11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prohibition is the problem. www.leap.cc Education is the key, there's always hope.

6/24/2009 12:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i can post the pickle jar method...
i can also post how to make your own anti hydrous.. but, should i? i bet if i did the feds would be at my door tomorrow mourning.. Will i get in trouble for posting it? as long as you dont try to make it yourself. curiosity purposes only. i don't do it either. i will post it as long as i don't get in trouble.. and the only reason i would post it, so society and the public knows what they are putting in their system.. stay away from meth, get a real job.. and mentally ill people meth is not the real fix. As GOD says: "Do not take things that alter the mind." meth will defile you and your whole family.. In the end you will have nothing left.. Anything you ever worked for including your wife will disperse. Thou shall not kill.. well, for those evil people who are still stuck on stupid makin this shit, you are killing people, you are taking someone's life.. The cook and the runner have as much free will as the buyer.. So quit.. you know right from wrong.. Besides what scientist say there is a god and he will deal with you in the end.. but, like i said if you want to know for informational purposes such as writing a book.. hit me up and i'll post whatever you seek..

7/13/2009 2:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i would liketo know the pickle jar method...not trying to make it...just very interested...i did a report on the myths of meth manufacture in school and that is the one thing i could not get solid evidence on...wether or not the ammonia, bluing, charcoal method was in fact a myth or not...and i have done a ton of research and still nothing...some people say yes and some people say no...but i would like some truth...i am not a meth user and have never even seen then stuff...i do not do any type of drugs either...just food for thought i guess...but please if you could enlighten me on the REAL pickle jar method....if it even exsist! if you dont want to post it you can email it to me...hustlahoneb1@yahoo.com, thanks xoxo

7/16/2009 10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonomus: you all need to stop all this shit its serious, you might think your just makin some extra money for your pocket, but really you are destroying lives by the thousands each day! My sister was 17 when she started this shit and now she is 21 and all fucked up still and she hasent done it for a year. *STOP THE TRAFFICING YOU ARE RUINING PEOPLES LIVES* AND IF I EVER FIND THE FUCKING JUNKIE THAT SUPPLIED MY SISTER WITH THIS DEATH DRUG IM GONNA FUCK HIS WHOLE WORLD UP! FROM:(LOVING BROTHER)

7/23/2009 12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Id Like to know the pickle jar method. Im not going to make it I lost a brother to meth.Id like to know exactly what killed him rltillman@mail.com

7/28/2009 5:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure that I've ever read so many post from so many morons. Between the hover moms, the addicts, and the nutty professors, anyone has to ask themselves, what is the point of reading this crap

8/23/2009 2:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sorry that all u methheads have no value to your lives. Go to an intensive care unit where there are people there fighting for their lives due to injury or illness people who if given a choice would love to be aware of the sweetness of life . You are wasting a life yours and the people who love u! It's so SAD! Find a way out of this darkness before it's too late eternity is really forever.

9/13/2009 9:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone know the real string recipe email me at davescra2008@yahoo.com i have soom very valuable recipes you might want in return

9/15/2009 4:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck life

9/25/2009 10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im glad i dont do the shit any more but i still think about it every day and it makes me sick that i cant get the thought of this shit off my mind

9/25/2009 10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kill your selves every body . fuck life you all deserve to die you wasted your time reading all this shit your gay ha ha ha same goes to me i guess fuck yall....... laters

9/25/2009 10:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ive been using meth since i was 16 and iam 57 today and i am just fine so dont lie to these people meth is a great drug. it makes u feel like a champ and u can fuck for hours and days with this shit iam going to snort a line for ever body on this web site right now please ever body dont say u dont like it till u tried it thats all ive got to say for now... PS. rehab is for quiters my mom and dad said dont ever be a quiter so iam not yall do the same...

10/05/2009 12:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when making easter bunny meth can you use any kind of gun bluing or do you have to use a specific type?

10/09/2009 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5 gallon bucket...
3 1/2 to 4 inches of crushed/powdered charcoal with the lighter fluid in it already.
Mop head to put through the lid for the crystals to form on. Super Blue Gun blue. Pure Ammonia. Lots of duct tape. Thick gloves. Put your gun blue on your strings that go through the lid. Anywhere there is gun blue the crystals will form. Put the ammonia in your crushed charcoal. And stick all of the strings through the lid. Just make sure they aren't touching. Bury that bucket in the ground far enough to where animals can't easily dig it up. (IT SMELLS LIKE DEATH) Then wait 29-30 days. It forms Selenium dioxide crystals. It's just like making sugar crystals in the fifth grade. ;)

10/12/2009 2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

had my five yers on it,worked all day tended my crop at night never wanted to sleep.seen it ruin so many lives its not funny.starts out as the two week itch year or two later couldent even get out of bed with out a hit on the bowl aline up my nose n some in my coffie and i still didnt care untill i upset the wrong person gave me a two pak mix one person giv me something they said was e did nothing they made a fuss next day someone gave me a go on their bowl insisted cause allready had my own shit anyway game over mixed togther nearly burnt me out anyone ever had their brain stinging 4 hours then awake 7 days on one hit?beware the hotshot!it aint pretty lets say i havent touched the bowl since.it was great feeling like crap 4 2 years n still aint feeling that great 5 years later.good luck boys dont fry yourselfs.mel

10/17/2009 4:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok if anyone has done this how many grams is this one method suppose to bring off of 1 batch?

10/26/2009 3:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok you ever thinks they should live their life doing this drug is crazy. i rather live than die... but ok people are just not getting it. stupid

10/27/2009 12:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. This is amazing. There is a lot of verifiable info here. Good thing there is always a balance. It can be verified from any standpoint. The ones who like it. And the ones who quit. Bottom line..... If you let it use you its probably not the best decision. Hell, between yall and I. I get pissed when the ol' lady eats a double quarter pounder. She gets pissed if I mess around with that sellenium sh!t. It's the only thing they have around nowadays. Isn't that what they put in dandruff shampoo? But like I said, there is always a balance. I was introduced to all this sh!t when I was a child. Good thing for parents. Or parent. I finally did it for the first time when I was 16. REI..... amazing!!!! Post P2P. The only one that I didn't try. I don't know if I'm gettin old now or what(32). But messin around with that new sh!t is a big waste of time. I guess unless you get a fresh one. Dumbasses make too much at once and can't get rid of it fast enough. Yes.... That goes for the Methicans too. Speed goes in moderation. A friend of mine hooked it up one time with one of the recipes above. Same ingredients different prep. I had a 5yr hiatus in the huskow. But he had everything he needed. Supposedly tried and true. He pulled it out and it was salt. PLain and simple. I know the method works because he wasn't the only friend I had. It just goes to show you never know what you're gonna get. When the older stuff was around, you knew what you were gonna get. You knew if the Ph was off. Especially if you liked to go up the nose with it. Yeah, the old school knows what I'm talkin about. May as well make a sandwich with it. Peanut butter and chili. Sh!t, my ol' lady gets these pills from the doctor that she takes with her double quarter pounder and that gets you going better than the stuff nowadays. Curious? (Phentermine) A lot cleaner too! She hides em' now. I know this glass sh!t works, but it's kind that one guy at work. You gotta keep him around because there just isn't anyone better.......Right Now... Too many hoops to jump through. I had to put some input in here because this blog piqued my interest. I've only done drugs a few times in my life. Once for ten yrs, once for 3 yrs, and now. I've been in recovery but I always go back to discovery. If you guys are comin here for the recipe. You have a long ways to go. Most of you guys reading this can still take a chemistry class in high school. But if you want to mess around the truth is here. Be careful, and remember....safety first. Especially if there are kids and family involved. Wipe your ass with your own hand. Thanks for listening.

Oh... came up with this on my guitar the other day. "Back with myself, just me and my friend. gave me new meaning of Honesty, burn from both ends. Thanks

11/12/2009 4:39 PM  

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